20 Comments to “Walking the thin line between humor and oppression: Axis Powers Hetalia”

  1. lbrevis

    Sep 7th, 2008

    What a great post. I’d heard about this but never bothered to figure out what the deal was. I’m definitely going to take a look at it now though I’ll have to brush up on my history first.

    Oh and you may already know this but it was announced a while ago that Studio Deen are turning it into an anime. I’m pretty sure this will be one title we can count on never, ever being licensed.

  2. Khursten

    Sep 7th, 2008

    Yeah. I heard about the animation. I think the reception’s really great, but again, especially with Japan’s knack for information buffering when it comes to history, this might touch up a lot of sensitivities.

    For one, I heard that some of the strip in the recently published version of the webcomic were changed. ;3; Makes you wonder, really…

    Thanks for reading. And wow… that was quick response. (*w* )

  3. Sweta

    Sep 10th, 2008

    I’d like to read this, but I’m in the US and I haven’t heard of it. Do you know if there’s any way I could read this on the internet? It sounds really good, although as you said, thr steretypes might offend some. I’d like to see for myself.

    Thanks!

  4. Khursten

    Sep 10th, 2008

    Hello Sweta, thanks for visiting.

    You can read translated strips of Hetalia at the link below: http://community.livejournal.com/Hetalia/tag/scanlation

  5. Cassandra

    Nov 5th, 2008

    I stumbled on this a few days ago but I can hardly find the scanlations so I appreciate the link.

    yeah, this is an interesting comic, but I don’t worry too much about the way it alters history -comedy, if it does not offend, doesn’t affect folks as much. Basically I feel that it has a part in this story. Doesn’t help that the characters are at least in part based on stereotypes >_<

    Also, considering there are still prejudices hanging around it may do people good to see other countries in another light, to at least expose people to something other than a sense of “otherness” that many people may feel around those of other nations. I mean…I’ve never seen something like this before, and I’d like to give it a chance before I make assumptions, you know?

  6. Melissa

    Dec 5th, 2008

    To start off, this was a very good read! I think you caught exactly the right words to describe this amazing little comic to both those new or associated with Axis Powers Hetalia, so kudos to you! <3

    On another note, I think I agree with you on how those uneducated on the events these plots take place are not getting the full picture. I mean, just the other day I was introduced to the pathetic Italy in the comic and was downright laughing since I had been taught of the events of WWII and Mussolini’s pathetic attempt of being a strong part of the war (and no offence, Mussi, but you really were the punchline of all dictators XD ). But to those who haven’t yet reached this part of history or never will (or aren’t as big as a History dork as I) probably will not find it as amusing and the comic may lose some of it’s comedy due to that.

    One point I did not agree on was that it can be insulting or create prejudices. We’ve (as in all the countries that were involved and what not) all grown since those horrid times that we should have enough maturity as a world together to get past some of the sterotypes or little jokes and just laugh. Now I can imagine some of the jokes or comments she leaves about her work could strike a nerve: such as Russia being more evil than the cursed Busby Stoop Chair, China making cheap imitations of beloved cartoon characters, or American ghosts being “flashy and wanting attention even after death”. But honestly, we should at least laugh at how sterotypical it is, be humble or at least admit some of these facts are true (America: We know we’re attention hogs and love sticking our noses into other people’s buisness, it’s a habit not all of us are proud of; Russia: It’s not evil, but in truth it’s rather intimidating and has not had the best reputation [with both other countries and its own people]; China: They do make cheap imitations of everything. I have personally witnessed this when visiting Bangkok. it’s pretty bad ).

    Though in the end it’s a comic and all it’s ment is to bring humor. If it’s too insulting to someone they could choose not to read it. If the person reading it has had no background information on the evenets but enjoy the comic, let them do so! Obviously this work can’t replace text books, but if it at leasts gets someone INTERESTED in the past of other countriesand the events… isn’t that a good thing?

    I don’t think it really should be taken too seriously (Hell, why am I writing an entire essay/comment on it then?! XD) and let’s hope that others will see this too and not take it so personally.

    (Phew) Anyway, good write, keep it up! Hope I didn’t kill your eyes from such a long post!;

  7. Khursten

    Dec 8th, 2008

    @Cassandra and Melissa, thank you for visiting!

    I would love to think that people in the Hetalia fandom are mature enough to put a lot of things into consideration when reading and would come up with the same conclusions as we do. There are those who think of it like we do, that this is a comic and a funny way to represent nations.

    However, I’ve also seen it as a passing internet fancy that has skewed the way some fans view the comic. orz. It’s quite disappointing when you see really really discriminating reactions from these fans. I for one found this reaction from a fan disappointing. And I pray that in time, she’d probably change her view of people and history.

    @Melissa, don’t worry. :) Long posts are much appreciated~ <3 And these valid points as well. <3

    Thanks for sharing your opinions everyone! \o/

  8. Melissa

    Dec 22nd, 2008

    Ugh, that’s so sad that people are so up tight these days (well, I guess they’ve been like that always, but still) and that picture… -sudders- I wanted to smack her XD

    Glad to hear my post didn’t bore you! :D

    (And just an edit on my part:

    China’s capital = Bejing, NOT Bangkok XD; My mistake! I always get those two mixed up;;; )

  9. CatzCradle

    Jan 7th, 2009

    Himaruya is a man, in his early to mid twenties, lol.

  10. honey and...

    Jan 9th, 2009

    I have read translated hetalia manga…
    Well this manga represents coutnires by stereotped people and the manga is based on historical events
    I minght be too overeacting to this manga but I think I should say this:

    Sorry to say this but, I’m very frustrated of author’s lack of world relationships and history issues
    This comic positively represents or make sterotype of country; but the way he make personification of countires frustrates me.
    The author intend to make positive appearance of his own country, specifically Japan. (Japan kun has nice relationships with every countries except China and Korea)
    The author makes negative appearance of other countries, for example, France and U.K is appeared as pervert, Canada only appears with U.S etc…

    note 1. I like hetalia comic and want to see hetalia anime, i’m not offence of it
    but i’m worried about haxuloxcaust issue and other side of war crimes that had hurt people’s feelings in wwii
    if some jexwish people looks this comic, they might feel(I hope there isn’t otaku jewish people who reads comics)
    bad…

  11. [...] unfortunately includes myself) who’s history is a little shady around these parts risk, as this post so expertly pointed out, knowing only the Hetalised version of events. So do you need to be a history buff to enjoy [...]

  12. Chrysan

    Feb 28th, 2009

    To be perfectly honest, I enjoyed every single Hetalia comic. I read it purely for entertainment purposes and I am amazed that ppl are getting sensitive and angry over inaccurate or glossed over parts in Hetalia.

    Is it really that important if the ignorant who read Hetalia and really assume that the stereotypes potrayed are 100% true? Because even w/o Hetalia they’ll always be ppl who assume stereotypes potrayed to be 100% true after watching movies, tv or any form media, be it accurate or not!

    I’ve read Hetalia knowing that all tragedies/bloody wars throughout real-world history will be potrayed in a very light-hearted manner and it has interested me to go find out more about how history really happened – and let me tell you, I’ve never really been interested in history bcos I find it depressing.

    Last but not least, if ppl really assume that what potrayed in Hetalia is like 100% accurate, then the world needs a better education system.

  13. lyra

    Mar 8th, 2009

    The main Allied Powers includs China; just don’t miss it, cuz every force played an important role in that war, let alone China has become a permanent membership of the UN security council afterwards.

  14. Sarah

    Apr 1st, 2009

    Hetalia actually inspires me to learn more real history ^__^ I’ve learned a lot more about the subject through Hetalia (in the form of being inspired to do research, that is) than I would have alone.

    And that’s why I love Hetalia.

  15. Yuutousei

    May 13th, 2009

    I understand your general concerns about Hetalia and, in fact, I feel the same way. Hetalia’s allowed me to find a new way of remembering random historical facts and has put a new spin, but I know not to take everything at face value – when presented with something about history I didn’t know (i.e. Teutonic Knights, Lithuania in general) I go and research it.

    Well written I must say, thanks <3

    Oh, and Himaruya-sensei is a male “]

  16. BlackFeather

    Jun 6th, 2009

    I have seen fans complaining about why there is no personification for their nations & so on~

    Fellow fans, you need to remember that Himaruya has only one brain & a pair of hands~ *smiles* If you really want to see your nations or certain historical event in Hetalia style, why don’t you try & create yourself? Himaruya is merely providing us a platform & it is up to we fans to be creative~~

    Hetalia is just a starting point for a journey of history~ There is a long way for you to go & you need to walk in your own path~

    But now you’ve known that history is not boring, history can be fun~ *smiles*

    “One has to note that Hetalia is Himaruya’s own exploration of history. The challenge here is to find our own.”

    One of my favourite quotes for Hetalia~~^^

    PS, That is why I think that Hetalia has one of the best fanbase I have ever seen~ It is always nice to see how Hetalia has inspired loads of fan creation~ & how fans are doing their best to understand history in a whole new way because of Hetalia~

    *******

    A thumbs up for your brilliant post~ Thank you for sharing your opinion with us~~ *smiles*

    “History should be forgiven, but history should be remembered.”
    I guess this is what Hetalia teaches us.

    *******

    PS, Shame to say, I am one of the fans who actually treat the nations in Hetalia as a character instead of a personified nation… OTL (England in Hetalia is not just England, for me he is Arthur Kirkland, if you get what I mean XD)

  17. Xu

    Jun 24th, 2009

    First off, I’d like to say this was a very good read. :3 (And, oh dear, I’m a late commenter. Late by a few months…)

    Secondly, the people I know generally aren’t offended by Hetalia. People find characters like France humorous rather than offensive. I know people from China who’re quite fond of the way their nation is portrayed in the comic, unlike some Koreans, who apparently find their nation-tan insulting. I don’t think there should be as much controversy as there is now, to be honest: Hetalia’s comic, meant to be read and enjoyed. It’s not a history textbook (not that history textbooks can’t be enjoyable). With the countries of the world appearing as cute little chibis half the time, the frivolity here should be dead obvious. XD; It’s clearly not going to be 100% accurate, but (in my case, at least) it’s really increased my interest in world history. I don’t see that as a bad thing.

    Another issue here is the fandom, which sort of takes the original webcomic and expands it into a more complex universe. Most people who come across Hetalia will have found it in webcomic form, so they know how to use the Internet…and will eventually stumble across fanfiction. A lot of the fanfic writers have actually gone and done a lot of research into history, leaving some handy little footnotes at the bottom detailing the historical events. They acknowledge that every country has a darker side, fought wars and committed horrible crimes and such. A good deal of the Hetalia fanfiction explores this. Good stuff. (And it’s usually historically accurate.)

    Long post is long. ;3; Again, enjoyed reading your post. <3

  18. V

    Jul 23rd, 2009

    I’d like to say (I’m sorry for posting this way after the actual post btw ><), that after only watching the anime and reading some of the comic, even thought I may not be history person, I fully enjoy Hetalia. And, I’m actually thinking about looking up some information on what really happened, and watching it again, just to catch all the other little jokes and humor ^^. Also, it makes fun of everyone, so it’s not like any one nation escapes from it. I’ve actually read a lot of fanfiction, for the characters and their interactions as people ^^.

  19. SL

    Aug 20th, 2009

    I absolutely love Hetalia, for multiple reasons. The fanbase is probably the best I have ever encountered, I have yet to meet a Hetalia fan who is closed minded, and I have learnt a lot of things from all over the world from them. Just the other day I read a fic where Kievan Rus’ was mentioned, and I was like “Kie-what? *goes to borrow history book*” and boom, there I know a little bit about something they never brought up in my history classes! Hetalia and the fans encourage looking up history on your own and to form your own picture of the world.

    I remember Himaruya saying something like, what he writes is satire, and as people say, there is nothing funny in stuff like the holocaust. Now that sentence is speaking for itself without further explanation. But just to fill in, there where some sad moments in Hetalia too, like when we saw those scars on Toris’s/Lithuania’s back. And that short strip about the Russian revolution. That was the only time ever I felt fear of Hetalia’s Ivan/Russia, but at the same time feeling so sad.
    Because the way I see it, the way the characters are portrayed, with all their differences, it is impossible for me to dislike any of them, and it brings a more open and understanding view for different cultures. Noone is completely bad and noone is completely good. We are all human for high heaven!

    This will sound incredibly corny, but this is true for me:
    Hetalia gave me back something I had previously lost; the will to wish for a more peaceful future.

  20. Taylor

    Sep 26th, 2009

    It seems like a coincidence that I took AP European History months before I read this book! This book is great and I think knowing more about history actually allows you to enjoy it better.
    Also I have found some people who are “offended” by some of the characters but I dont see the point! Ecspecially in these times I think this is perfect for a really good laugh ecspecially a laugh at your own country. I know while watching America go around eating hamburgers and yelling “Im the hero!” I would think thats so American!(I’m American by the way!)
    Besides my long post I think this was a great review! :)


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